ted by quite a small number of people, , trade union delegates go to a ballot cin tae union, and many ousanos br es are cast delegaie that resents them. the enteren ce t anoler mater vou the conference is anther matter. have the situarion which existed at the C where a delegation, as in my own was refused permission Lit doesn't rest there - thar light goes EISNE TOE WINO. That matter will be up by the delegates inside the Union I the President will be challenged, as it where Carron did this sort of thing roo was deleated by the rank and file the course of time.
Many of the delegates who go from ons are also individual members of the bour Party and are active inside their bour Parties and so it iso't a question an ro wars division belacen, those o are trade unionists and those who are stiruency members.
what is needed to make the LIENE bers and to the working class would fac the unis in Lhe COLSOULL coming affiliated, sending becoming more active inside the mIT TIS.
Is a very wide question, For part been ewouring get more trade nocatation the consteucy parlz thai the CiP hecame, a rescrion ol point of view of workers in thei trade ons as well as tbe polocally achre akers in the constituency.
SS888888383 other was of moving fowards achiesthe same aim would he for the Labour h Ernie Roberts Party with trade union hacking to baild factory branches.
I'm not only in favour of this. 1 actualls carried out what exneriment in this warcountry had diaprea Panty collecting or paying contributions raised Kegion of the ishour Patiy Precutive -the matter, and it was branch.
1 found it very as 1 was a shop steward the trade union contriburions CE DOELIS. THUBTS premises. workers ased to travel to work in -scaler Dus bus, siting and standing up, every woek, DE POSte S0 every week mn the political education and discussion which of course gave Tise Lo 1945. going on in the army as wel union Toil haye iconoclast in the Solidarity Campuign, logether, loughtl StramBicsMSCI was probably the first woen i monkel 81 Jaguar Motors in Coventry during the throughout the disappeared because of the OCTaIC SWCTE question with the Midlands of which 1 was a mbember. They discussel easy, 1 made 100 members. 1 collected thoir contibutions as I collected Ar the wouldo'l give which S10 EN • а 45 have -USEU meetings of abour 60 persons inside the bat the TACIE UICEC Wi when it was And imnlemen:eu. alwoss been i hit of un sou operate. 1 wonsen remerher very well in 1968 ut the height of the witchant aud hosterin vou as a neil knowa trade-unionist joined the Vielenm marched to GrosIT LEWE Ar the preseat rime, It is not Vicinom There в once aguin a nosen wacn Bs guining ground, together with • more rightwand drift in Beitish society as a WTHTUT STE VODE VIews ntg how do you think the fascists cam best be All the working ciass trade union and political movements have got to unite on fight asdinst TUSCIAN LALAETYIS WOEDE movement in the fight against fascism.
To fight fascism, we have got to take up the ssis on which fascism are feeding Thai is unemployment, houins, health, hospitals and other social conditions that face the working class paricularly o ourse, the condition of wages and th standard of living.
We must take up issues thoroughly the labour movement, the Labour Party and the MP's must get involved in these - such struzeles like Grunwick That sbould be so on chese other issues Hock away the main prop and appe DICI TaLIsm Bus co Lac aua. Immature young workers particularly who ane fighting against these conditions 2:23888833833 Don't you think also that the question of Immigration and the way that has been actually punders to the fascists because once you accept that the problem is the so-billed bordes of blacks ready to enter the country ualess you huve control, then you really give in to the racist argument.
single Labour leader, right or left, Ras campaigned boldly and ruthlessly gainst Yes. my own union has carried resolu tions againsr the immigration law of 1968 and 1971 and has opposed this idea thai the problems which face this country can be solved by shuring out workers from other countries coming to. Britain and indon. 20. 00 took part in a march bill bothing much has been done since then. e'g a ae of brineme ouf troons. takimg them for a march, telling them to go home and leaving the matter there.
thát thi march should bring out 100,000 and then can bring MIC TOSA EUCSION CE OIE I and building on the tempo, a campaign to racialist laws and and fascist S88S888888823000328993 There is u discussion now in the labour movement of a wide ranging charsicter which has been raised by the situation in LADIESOL LOULE ME WATB NARU LEUNU with the fasciss through legal bans. Wast anitade would you take to that?
Tam very douhrful abour the use of law in vorking clas:
meetings in the working class movement law concedes only that which the organised working class has the power to win by its own strength.
even when it concedes in law, that aw has to be pushed, implemented and (bere bas to be the power to soc thal il is Jest cake example.
Equal pay is known to be ose by the even heniTh safety legislation, the right to hase a union, night to operate ar a trade bion, eren TESLAE OECOSHNMESEIOUOLIS IE on the sacate hooks for 130 geurs) has ro be fought for as Gruewick and Dessoutters prove, So legislation does nor solve All it does is to identity that here har hoen a fight and the workers have had a victory if it is seen to be a good aTascien is not going to be outlawed because as you can see in Tameside, that DELE LI LEIT AH BMC SEESOR society. Even the Salvation Army and the Church parade as well as trade unions and OUnCE TECOESAAIC DOHEICA ORTOC MCCE ings and demonstratioos. detrimental to the interests of the working COSS class to rely upon the law, to rely upon bans and proscriptions problem. Fascism will be stopped ultimWT WIC HI WETUE CIRES ERS SUELLIU strength to stop the fascists fron engaging in racialist and anti-trade union activity Michael Foot and Bevan have at differeat UeS URsCHUeU ne ouw oumON as a very betwitehieg dinh. beth of course bewitched by it. Bot thew did. Tae become very their whole Bife becume dominuted b DamENE DOES Bevan though Beram in bis carly pears told people thut nothing could be uchierCOu aurunen wHaD an exra-oar mentary mass morement outside. Wast do yuu think you will be uble to achieve in the House of Commons os u Lahow MPT T would also like to think of Parliament as a dub-to be used to hit the capitalists over the head with 1 would differ 40 CI ULC 48 380028 lace of Ferr' and hesscentcot -always made a separation berween parlia montary action and industrial aetion tor political ends.
He said he did not agree with industrial action for political ends. I disagrec with To Tk VOU TUS T OE TOdEN strength for political objectives. My man union proved this when Industris| Relations Act. If we'd bave lef it to the politicians. still have bad shat Act.
What do you think will energe out of thi T.P Conference. The Feature as we see lt, bs that for the first time since e Labour Government brs beer in power, there is nor a single resolution which i& going to be debated attacking met overnment s cconomic poucies NUPE has said as mach — that they have been suppressed adverlisement In the bol ue of Tribune Whsr do you think can be got oet of shis yer's comference?
This sear's conference is going to be r pre-election ponterence. That is probabl TOC TCHSOn TOr BaFanae toD min debales, or topical resolutions which attac) the economic LYCIECIE While there are not atlacks by resolu tions, there are a lot being made by WETKESTE CUEV WIEMERSOI ing increases in wages and so on, The whalch HAnCES TACO UL BoC Ua aE miners. So whether chere is a debate at the Conference or пос, Conneclcsicuaconibocountry Tene ard ente Con Detine top None Lahour's chances of hecoming a maloric Coverament in the niext election which Js likely to take place befone the next Labour CAT SOEC CHEE.
888888383288883 What wald sou sor leaders who say that workers shoald not suhmit big wages increases and that they shauldn't fight becruse that will heing the Government dewa?
The one ching thar is curning the workers the against the Labour Government is pre asely the fact that there has been no real toht on the oi ston oi waees and on th issue of the social wage which is the socia services and so on.
SENET NSST SULU CEC DEMMES HIC CUE Lie Governesl. The Governmenr the docision to stop the working class.
So it can be the under tie They were determined aot to Ret able paritamencarists and of capitalism.
CICE SOnOMA So
KUCHTE MEEDIS salutions.
•from Bevan incuding couldn't hale it smashed the we would probably Important Slaue in a Tall Du you think policies of the trade union CHUC Just Anishied, the there 1s action to anything to spai kind of ideus opinions too. socialise status quo.
Workers have hee SOCIALISTCHALLENGE 29 September1977 Page9 DESIS US UWE CREC So the real way to victory is to change course, change the direction, Gove nment to start doine thines ar eve this late bour which is in the interests of the living standards of the working class and lhe ecocral social conditions or the politicinna are correct when they say that present conditions of crisis the things which sou want damage capitulism and the the capitalist coonomy and the whole cuecept of • mITE COMOMYT SOEN SICISH) - withim the contest of the present economie crisi - reforms are mot possible, there is a Thar is logical and correct. Any socinlis: DIESSETCSSTE COCU TOEANSER They are conflicting ideologies. derdopment we make in che direction o socini is bodda lo wegken le serchel!
they masto't objeot. By taking Taey weakco Ene exist ence of Fritish capitalism. Our interest in the future is not lied up wich capitalisoi. lt B weu up wan mpumeouns socins IE a Lahour Gerecoment with un overall прое, сотнео до socie pods nationalising the mAjOr monopolies in this country, were to com to poner theo tis mous mee Wish determined ruling diass resistance. Onte out the use of extra paramentary wettennos uren the riga: in the shupe of the erins, und so on.
This is the roal fascist reaction, the kind id the fotsif the Tenten, bit ati tee and their fascist movements. real danee. The workice class bas lo bave enough strength to meet such a situaion. They will be more able to mees it if they SEL TEMUL SWEEL OLN None of us should ignore the fact thar as the workers' make inroads into capital, as they raise their ving standards ane achieve for themselves a-Setter life, at the expense of capitalism, the capitalists will fight back and will use ail the power they san master to stop the workers achieving their objectives. But that is not to say that such a ticht aod such a struggle CE TE what trade unions and political working class movements are all abour.
the ideus of the the changed Presen leaders of the LP can There are twa options. The first is, that if they won't change, then we'll change the caders. Je workung class has got to have the right to make up its mind about its Labour Parts around the Carpaign fo Democracy in the L.P and the fight inside the unions which is going on for greate demoracy — the right to cleet beir ution lenders, the right to control their deleg ations and so on, are all part of it. 1f tbc leaders don't change their minds Chen we'll change the leaders.
What logically fows from this, Is foat you ire epposed tu all beas and proscription Yes | think the LP is a federal body which is wide enough to encompas all sbades ol working class opinion within it. The ooly we shouldn't tolerate withit the Lahour Party is the opinions which san. We have get gance a tev of tam of these ...
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